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		<title>By: Олег</title>
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		<dc:creator>Олег</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Кстати подобное придумали ориентировочно лет 10 назад .:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Кстати подобное придумали ориентировочно лет 10 назад .:</p>
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		<title>By: ct</title>
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		<dc:creator>ct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doug:

&quot;It has always been said to be based on GNU/Linux and to be an open source project.&quot;

That isn&#039;t actually true.  Android is based on Linux, but &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; GNU/Linux.  There is no FSF/GNU code in Android.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doug:</p>
<p>&#8220;It has always been said to be based on GNU/Linux and to be an open source project.&#8221;</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t actually true.  Android is based on Linux, but <i>not</i> GNU/Linux.  There is no FSF/GNU code in Android.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Common Myths About Linux and Android (Updated) &#171; Icwang&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Common Myths About Linux and Android (Updated) &#171; Icwang&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Five Common Myths About Linux and Android&#160;(Updated)  Five Common Myths About Linux and Android (Updated) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Price</title>
		<link>http://www.phonenews.com/five-common-myths-about-linux-and-android-5105/comment-page-1/#comment-22206</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Google&#039;s RC30 update will block that. It&#039;s already on its way to devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Google&#8217;s RC30 update will block that. It&#8217;s already on its way to devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.phonenews.com/five-common-myths-about-linux-and-android-5105/comment-page-1/#comment-22205</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people may know by now, but root access has been obtained. With this, all myths are now true. Please upate your post? If you need proof just google &quot;android root&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people may know by now, but root access has been obtained. With this, all myths are now true. Please upate your post? If you need proof just google &#8220;android root&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.phonenews.com/five-common-myths-about-linux-and-android-5105/comment-page-1/#comment-21954</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It turns out the G1 supports native code upload and execution without any hacks: http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f2/busybox-on-the-g1-4358/

The G1 actually ships with a running debug daemon. Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It turns out the G1 supports native code upload and execution without any hacks: <a href="http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f2/busybox-on-the-g1-4358/" rel="nofollow">http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f2/busybox-on-the-g1-4358/</a></p>
<p>The G1 actually ships with a running debug daemon. Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Koolu.com has announced that they will be selling the OpenMoko Freerunner with Android pre-installed beginning in November 2008, as well as offering free downloads of the Freerunner port of Android to existing Freerunner owners.&quot; - http://www.koolu.com/

There you go, a standard commercially available phone that runs all Linux applications, including Android ones... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Koolu.com has announced that they will be selling the OpenMoko Freerunner with Android pre-installed beginning in November 2008, as well as offering free downloads of the Freerunner port of Android to existing Freerunner owners.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.koolu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.koolu.com/</a></p>
<p>There you go, a standard commercially available phone that runs all Linux applications, including Android ones&#8230; <img src='http://www.phonenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Google prohibits developers from running Linux applications on the G1&quot; - the Android emulator includes specific functionality to upload and run non-Java applications, and gives you a full root shell for general hacking around. If Google didn&#039;t want this functionality to be available, they wouldn&#039;t have included it. Individual phones may not allow the upload of non-Java applications, but that&#039;s not Google&#039;s fault... 

Even if Google were working against running non-Java applications on Android phones, they would fail. Android is open source, so anyone can take the code and compile it for a platform that allows you to run your own applications. You could even run Dalvik on your PC if you feel like it - the Cairo backend for Skia means that any Skia application could run on a standard Linux desktop. As far as phones go, you certainly don&#039;t need a G1 - the Neo Freerunner already runs full Linux applications, and Android is being ported to it (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android ) - current estimates are that porting will be done in November. As you can see from the status (see  http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw ) most of the patching is already done. 

&quot;my point was, that Linux still doesn’t take a point-and-click approach to third-party software. It still has a fragmented world view about how to handle that.&quot; - most distributions do package up massive amounts of third party software, many thousands of applications in fact. How many applications do Apple or Microsoft package and provide through a unified installation system? Only the iPhone approaches what the Linux distributions already have, and Android has its own equivalent application repository - the only difference is that the Android store only includes Java applications approved by Google, whereas the iPhone store only includes Objective-C applications approved by Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Google prohibits developers from running Linux applications on the G1&#8243; &#8211; the Android emulator includes specific functionality to upload and run non-Java applications, and gives you a full root shell for general hacking around. If Google didn&#8217;t want this functionality to be available, they wouldn&#8217;t have included it. Individual phones may not allow the upload of non-Java applications, but that&#8217;s not Google&#8217;s fault&#8230; </p>
<p>Even if Google were working against running non-Java applications on Android phones, they would fail. Android is open source, so anyone can take the code and compile it for a platform that allows you to run your own applications. You could even run Dalvik on your PC if you feel like it &#8211; the Cairo backend for Skia means that any Skia application could run on a standard Linux desktop. As far as phones go, you certainly don&#8217;t need a G1 &#8211; the Neo Freerunner already runs full Linux applications, and Android is being ported to it (see <a href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android</a> ) &#8211; current estimates are that porting will be done in November. As you can see from the status (see  <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw" rel="nofollow">http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw</a> ) most of the patching is already done. </p>
<p>&#8220;my point was, that Linux still doesn’t take a point-and-click approach to third-party software. It still has a fragmented world view about how to handle that.&#8221; &#8211; most distributions do package up massive amounts of third party software, many thousands of applications in fact. How many applications do Apple or Microsoft package and provide through a unified installation system? Only the iPhone approaches what the Linux distributions already have, and Android has its own equivalent application repository &#8211; the only difference is that the Android store only includes Java applications approved by Google, whereas the iPhone store only includes Objective-C applications approved by Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touché</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touché</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if Ubuntu could get the Wi-Fi would work on my... *shot*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if Ubuntu could get the Wi-Fi would work on my&#8230; *shot*</p>
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