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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,

Okay, I can more see your point now. The only thing I can really say is about, well how you put it &quot;they got caught when they accidentally allowed SERO plan holders to activate Instinct&quot;.

If Sprint did make a mistake at some point whether advertising, sales staff, corporate, etc. and they discovered that they would be loosing money with a SERO customer having an Instinct, what should they do? I know that especially with large corporations we think we can demand this or that, and claim false advertising, etc, etc. Hell I do it myself. But seriously how far do they have to go to fulfill the mistakes? Usually it is a refund or something similar, correct? As of right now what are they offering?

And those of you on SERO, I would understand that you would be unhappy about being misled or felt excited only to be left down but would you expect a company to pick up a portion of your tab and loose money just for your service? This really reminds me of how my 3 year old acts if we talk about going to the park and it rains. I understand that it is very different especially because it involves your time, gas, patience. All in all, we can&#039;t just demand that we deserve everything, or can we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>Okay, I can more see your point now. The only thing I can really say is about, well how you put it &#8220;they got caught when they accidentally allowed SERO plan holders to activate Instinct&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Sprint did make a mistake at some point whether advertising, sales staff, corporate, etc. and they discovered that they would be loosing money with a SERO customer having an Instinct, what should they do? I know that especially with large corporations we think we can demand this or that, and claim false advertising, etc, etc. Hell I do it myself. But seriously how far do they have to go to fulfill the mistakes? Usually it is a refund or something similar, correct? As of right now what are they offering?</p>
<p>And those of you on SERO, I would understand that you would be unhappy about being misled or felt excited only to be left down but would you expect a company to pick up a portion of your tab and loose money just for your service? This really reminds me of how my 3 year old acts if we talk about going to the park and it rains. I understand that it is very different especially because it involves your time, gas, patience. All in all, we can&#8217;t just demand that we deserve everything, or can we?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This actually happened to me...  Before I ordered the SERO, I called customer care and spoke with TWO reps - each one told me the Instinct could be activated on the SERO plan because it has unlimited data.  The Instinct was also available on the SERO site for new activations and upgrades.  So I ordered it online, and when I received the phone, I tried to activate it and they wouldn&#039;t - they told me I either had to go on the $69.99 plan or the $99.99 plan.  After speaking with multiple reps, and even escalating to presidential escalations - my only 2 options were to change plans or to return the phone.  I chose to return the phone since the only reason I&#039;m with Sprint is because of the SERO plan - it&#039;s the best deal around.  Couple weeks went by, and yesterday morning I got a message on my voicemail telling me that my most recent phone return (which was the Instinct) is not eligible for a refund..  WTF?!?!  I called and inquired about this, and right now it&#039;s under investigation... so who knows when this will be finally resolved.  And now I even hear rumors that there will be a special SERO plan coming out just for the Instinct...  OMG if that&#039;s true I&#039;m going to be SO PISSED off at Sprint for putting me through this hell just to find out that they could have done something.  If I was told from the beginning by those 2 Sprint reps that the SERO plans aren&#039;t eligible to have the Instinct on them, I would have never ordered the phone and put myself through all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This actually happened to me&#8230;  Before I ordered the SERO, I called customer care and spoke with TWO reps &#8211; each one told me the Instinct could be activated on the SERO plan because it has unlimited data.  The Instinct was also available on the SERO site for new activations and upgrades.  So I ordered it online, and when I received the phone, I tried to activate it and they wouldn&#8217;t &#8211; they told me I either had to go on the $69.99 plan or the $99.99 plan.  After speaking with multiple reps, and even escalating to presidential escalations &#8211; my only 2 options were to change plans or to return the phone.  I chose to return the phone since the only reason I&#8217;m with Sprint is because of the SERO plan &#8211; it&#8217;s the best deal around.  Couple weeks went by, and yesterday morning I got a message on my voicemail telling me that my most recent phone return (which was the Instinct) is not eligible for a refund..  WTF?!?!  I called and inquired about this, and right now it&#8217;s under investigation&#8230; so who knows when this will be finally resolved.  And now I even hear rumors that there will be a special SERO plan coming out just for the Instinct&#8230;  OMG if that&#8217;s true I&#8217;m going to be SO PISSED off at Sprint for putting me through this hell just to find out that they could have done something.  If I was told from the beginning by those 2 Sprint reps that the SERO plans aren&#8217;t eligible to have the Instinct on them, I would have never ordered the phone and put myself through all this.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Corbett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Corbett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re gonna BELIEVE Sprint?  You might as well wait till your kids are grown before their customer service reps answer your calls.  It takes months to get them to realize you aren&#039;t doing business at THEIR convenience.  They&#039;re worse than AT&amp;T, and just as devious in sales techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re gonna BELIEVE Sprint?  You might as well wait till your kids are grown before their customer service reps answer your calls.  It takes months to get them to realize you aren&#8217;t doing business at THEIR convenience.  They&#8217;re worse than AT&amp;T, and just as devious in sales techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, Zac, that Sprint is not telling the whole truth about SERO&#039;s compatibility with Instinct.

With unlimited messaging now a part of SERO, there is no valid technical reason why Instinct would not &quot;fully work&quot; on SERO. In fact, we proved that it would when they were activated.

This is merely a financial ploy to prevent SERO plan holders from using Instinct. And, they got caught when they accidentally allowed SERO plan holders to activate Instinct, providing technical proof that it would &quot;fully work&quot;.

I suspect that is the main reason why we cannot get any comment about Sprint kicking SERO owners off of Instinct. Anything they say (without changing policy) would just dig a deeper hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, Zac, that Sprint is not telling the whole truth about SERO&#8217;s compatibility with Instinct.</p>
<p>With unlimited messaging now a part of SERO, there is no valid technical reason why Instinct would not &#8220;fully work&#8221; on SERO. In fact, we proved that it would when they were activated.</p>
<p>This is merely a financial ploy to prevent SERO plan holders from using Instinct. And, they got caught when they accidentally allowed SERO plan holders to activate Instinct, providing technical proof that it would &#8220;fully work&#8221;.</p>
<p>I suspect that is the main reason why we cannot get any comment about Sprint kicking SERO owners off of Instinct. Anything they say (without changing policy) would just dig a deeper hole.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,

I thought I was semi-clear, first, I didn&#039;t really know the background behind the issue. I was stating that Sprint&#039;s corporate offices passed down the memo that SERO plans would ultimately not work but if the customers choose so, they could purchase the phone with a requirement that they change plans within x amount of days. Not all of the Sprint store sales employees passed the information down to the customers. So, whether Sprint&#039;s corporate offices should have known that it wouldn&#039;t work OR the sales staff aren&#039;t the brightest bunch, Sprint IS to blame.
All I was doing was breaking it apart just a bit. I do that when people start to think that issues like this are some evil scheme... Kind of like the dude who posted under yours with his &quot;go after these individuals&quot; like it was some conspiracy against them.

Oh well, it really is like I said though, which one sucks the least..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>I thought I was semi-clear, first, I didn&#8217;t really know the background behind the issue. I was stating that Sprint&#8217;s corporate offices passed down the memo that SERO plans would ultimately not work but if the customers choose so, they could purchase the phone with a requirement that they change plans within x amount of days. Not all of the Sprint store sales employees passed the information down to the customers. So, whether Sprint&#8217;s corporate offices should have known that it wouldn&#8217;t work OR the sales staff aren&#8217;t the brightest bunch, Sprint IS to blame.<br />
All I was doing was breaking it apart just a bit. I do that when people start to think that issues like this are some evil scheme&#8230; Kind of like the dude who posted under yours with his &#8220;go after these individuals&#8221; like it was some conspiracy against them.</p>
<p>Oh well, it really is like I said though, which one sucks the least..?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in regards to 

SHOULD BE

in regard to


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That sucks that Sprint has decided to hide it and actually go after these individuals (how many?) unless they don&#039;t want to set a precedent that others will use as leverage to get it on their SERO plan as did others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in regards to </p>
<p>SHOULD BE</p>
<p>in regard to</p>
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<p>That sucks that Sprint has decided to hide it and actually go after these individuals (how many?) unless they don&#8217;t want to set a precedent that others will use as leverage to get it on their SERO plan as did others.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Price</title>
		<link>http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-kicking-customers-off-instinct-3677/comment-page-1/#comment-15757</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zac, the only &quot;they&quot; in this equation is Sprint. All the phones in question were bought and activated inside of Sprint corporate retail stores. Sprint is solely to blame for this debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zac, the only &#8220;they&#8221; in this equation is Sprint. All the phones in question were bought and activated inside of Sprint corporate retail stores. Sprint is solely to blame for this debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Sprint Responds to SERO Woes &#124; PhoneNews.com</title>
		<link>http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-kicking-customers-off-instinct-3677/comment-page-1/#comment-15629</link>
		<dc:creator>Sprint Responds to SERO Woes &#124; PhoneNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the Samsung Instinct, Sprint did not address the matter of customers being kicked off of Instinct, however they have made some improvements. SERO customers can now switch to to a Simply Everything [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the Samsung Instinct, Sprint did not address the matter of customers being kicked off of Instinct, however they have made some improvements. SERO customers can now switch to to a Simply Everything [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they sold phones to incompatible plans then that sucks. However, the &quot;they&quot; in this case isn&#039;t really clear to me. I used to sell phones in college and I know that RS, BellSouth, AT&amp;T, Verizon, Sprint, it didn&#039;t matter where but all the sales folk (myself included) were like used car sales men. Not to mention that any knew phones/technology no one every really knew the whole deal because we were trying so hard for comission. Anyway, I see that the &quot;official&quot; word could have been for the employees to notify the SERO customers that they would have a certain amount of time before a switch was required (a month or whatever). Probably sales staff failed to push that info and now Sprint is offering free refunds. Pretty good deal I imagin, especially if the SERO customer&#039;s &quot;official&quot; contract stated the plan requirement... Anyway, sales people suck, we all know this.

What I could say is a problem is that they left it up to their sales staff to communicate this. Perhaps they could have known a problem would have occurred. As for their plan requirement in general, why would they sell a phone, advertise all the features it could have, then let it go on plans that only allow talk or text..? That is the kind of $*&amp;# everyone used to complain about. False advertising, etc...

And a quick note about picking a carrier. The main thing is, &quot;WHO SUCKS THE LEAST&quot;! Then it is, &quot;who sucks the least in your area&quot; mixed with a &quot;what phone do I like the most&quot;. Many people base their selection off of customer support. That is as dumb as watching a horible movie released by say Sony Entertainment then choosing never to watch a movie produced by them again. Oh, and telling all of your friends and family what horrible movies they make. Well that&#039;s not fair, let&#039;s make it 3 or 4 of the movies released by Sony Entertainment. BUT to make it totally fair, lets put out every single movie released AND the person is picking the movies with a blind fold. THAT would be a similar situation.

With love and doubt,
Zac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they sold phones to incompatible plans then that sucks. However, the &#8220;they&#8221; in this case isn&#8217;t really clear to me. I used to sell phones in college and I know that RS, BellSouth, AT&amp;T, Verizon, Sprint, it didn&#8217;t matter where but all the sales folk (myself included) were like used car sales men. Not to mention that any knew phones/technology no one every really knew the whole deal because we were trying so hard for comission. Anyway, I see that the &#8220;official&#8221; word could have been for the employees to notify the SERO customers that they would have a certain amount of time before a switch was required (a month or whatever). Probably sales staff failed to push that info and now Sprint is offering free refunds. Pretty good deal I imagin, especially if the SERO customer&#8217;s &#8220;official&#8221; contract stated the plan requirement&#8230; Anyway, sales people suck, we all know this.</p>
<p>What I could say is a problem is that they left it up to their sales staff to communicate this. Perhaps they could have known a problem would have occurred. As for their plan requirement in general, why would they sell a phone, advertise all the features it could have, then let it go on plans that only allow talk or text..? That is the kind of $*&amp;# everyone used to complain about. False advertising, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>And a quick note about picking a carrier. The main thing is, &#8220;WHO SUCKS THE LEAST&#8221;! Then it is, &#8220;who sucks the least in your area&#8221; mixed with a &#8220;what phone do I like the most&#8221;. Many people base their selection off of customer support. That is as dumb as watching a horible movie released by say Sony Entertainment then choosing never to watch a movie produced by them again. Oh, and telling all of your friends and family what horrible movies they make. Well that&#8217;s not fair, let&#8217;s make it 3 or 4 of the movies released by Sony Entertainment. BUT to make it totally fair, lets put out every single movie released AND the person is picking the movies with a blind fold. THAT would be a similar situation.</p>
<p>With love and doubt,<br />
Zac</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I were both on the $30 Sero plan for just under two years (I am an ex Sprint employee that used my own email address to get the account set up under my wifes social) and the plan was really not that great.  Sure I got 500 min and unlimited data and pic/video mail but had to pay for text messaging.  So our bill was $90 before taxes.  I went to a corporate Sprint store on 6-19-08 and upgraded to the Instinct.  The rep told me he could not sell me the phone due to the plan I was on so we called care from the store and changed over the the new 1500 FP.  We now get an extra 500 min and 7pm nights as well as Navigation which I would have to pay for on the old Sero plan for $40 more a month.  To me that is not a bad deal at all considering no other carrier can touch that plan and it is open to everyone.  For years Sprint has been the bargin basment carrier and Dan is now trying to changing all that.  People out there (including myself) have been mooching off Sprint for years and now they are putting restrictions on certain things eveyone is upsat which I understand.  The fact is if you don&#039;t like it....don&#039;t get that phone or change to another carrier where you can pay even more that the plans Sprint is trying to change people over to.  I have saves thounds over the years using Sprint and for that reason alone don&#039;t mind pay an extra $40 now.  Anyways thats my rant and sorry for any spelling errors running short on time....gotta get back to work...lunch break is over</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I were both on the $30 Sero plan for just under two years (I am an ex Sprint employee that used my own email address to get the account set up under my wifes social) and the plan was really not that great.  Sure I got 500 min and unlimited data and pic/video mail but had to pay for text messaging.  So our bill was $90 before taxes.  I went to a corporate Sprint store on 6-19-08 and upgraded to the Instinct.  The rep told me he could not sell me the phone due to the plan I was on so we called care from the store and changed over the the new 1500 FP.  We now get an extra 500 min and 7pm nights as well as Navigation which I would have to pay for on the old Sero plan for $40 more a month.  To me that is not a bad deal at all considering no other carrier can touch that plan and it is open to everyone.  For years Sprint has been the bargin basment carrier and Dan is now trying to changing all that.  People out there (including myself) have been mooching off Sprint for years and now they are putting restrictions on certain things eveyone is upsat which I understand.  The fact is if you don&#8217;t like it&#8230;.don&#8217;t get that phone or change to another carrier where you can pay even more that the plans Sprint is trying to change people over to.  I have saves thounds over the years using Sprint and for that reason alone don&#8217;t mind pay an extra $40 now.  Anyways thats my rant and sorry for any spelling errors running short on time&#8230;.gotta get back to work&#8230;lunch break is over</p>
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