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  • 108 responses to “Sprint Launches Premier Loyalty Program”

    1. los2003

      this seems like a good idea

    2. UPdownLoAD

      The phrase, “Too little, too late” comes to mind…..

    3. Jordan

      Actually, I’ve had premier status for at least several months (that I know of; could be longer). I’ve been with Sprint for just over 8 years and had a family plan for about 6 of those. On family plans, only the main line gets a yearly phone upgrade (the other lines get the standard 2-year deal).

    4. Ray

      I wonder if they’re going to include former Nextel subscribers in the “more than 10 years” category – those of who switched over to the CDMA side after Sprint began neglecting the iDEN network.

    5. Dan

      I have seen this on my account for at least two months. Love the idea of being able to upgrade every year instead of 22 months.

    6. Cecil

      Doesn’t it seem like the 10 year requirement is a high one, where as the $69/$99 requirement is quite low?

    7. Don Louie

      10 years is only for single plans of less than 70 or fam less than 100, otherwise it’s only a few months

    8. SaltyDawg

      I had this on my account before I dumped Sprint and went to AT&T. I got a notice in the mail informing me basically the same thing the blog says. Only it wasn’t a 10 year requirement. I only had my acocunt for 5 or 6 years consecutively (and a few more years before that but i left for a year so only 5 or 6 were consecutive).

      I left anyway. And I’m happy I did. I should have left a lot sooner than I did. As someone already said, too little, too late.

    9. Joe

      How is this any different from the “white glove” (or similar) program they’ve had for quite some time now? I mean, as a 10+ year customer, I’m always open to new incentives, but I don’t see much new here.

    10. JJ

      Hey Saltydog good for you for switching to Att. Enjoy their so called high speed network. I understand if you switched over to Verizon but Att? Cmon, i wouldnt be bragging about it though. Ive had sprint since 2003 and they get better every year. So go ahead and pay double the price for the att so called 3G network., more like 2G.

    11. Ross

      This probably doesn’t apply if I get a discount through my employer?

    12. RonaldVegan

      Your employee discount would not disqualify you from participation in the SP program, as long as you’re on a regular plan that is (or was) available to the general public.

    13. Ross

      Sweet! I have a regular plan I just get 23% off of my monthly bill, but I’m still way over the $99 threshold.

    14. Sparklenut

      Call me crazy, but I’ve been with Sprint since October of 1998…and I’ve been a part of this “special” program now since October or November of last year. It’s odd to see this article here now.

      I also have 7 lines on my account with an insanely high monthly bill…so I guess I more than qualify.

      The thing is…it’s not given me much “special”…sure the 12 months upgrade feature is nice, but that’s about all I’ve seen or have been offered. Even though you get to upgrade every 12 months with a full $150 rebate, I’ve been told by Sprint reps that it doesn’t change the fact that I’m still under a 2 year contract on my current phone and that doesn’t expire until next February (2010).

      Really, the only way you get recognized by Sprint is if your contract is up for renewal or you threaten to leave to AT&T…

    15. Tyler

      Hey JJ, glad to hear Sprint gets better every year. Of course its not hard when you’ve hit rock bottom. jmo, but it would appear to me they’re getting worse according to Sprint’s quarterly #’s.

    16. JJ

      Your right. Their numbers dont look good. But im not complaining as long as my service is still good. Hopefully the pre will help Sprint out. They still have a chance to be cell phone industry contenders. Hopefully their smart enough to get out of the mess their in.

    17. SaltyDawg

      @ JJ:

      I don’t know why people say Sprint data is faster than AT&T’s, but it is not the case. Sprint fanboys can say it over and over, but it doesn’t make it true. AT&T has HSPA data that is capable of over 7 meg downloads. Of course, I never get that, but I still get 2 or 3 times the speeds I used to get on Sprint’s EVDO rev A. And, I can talk on the phone while I do it. At least 2 or 3 times per week, I find myself watching my Slingplayer while talking on the phone thru my bluetooth headset.

      And as for cost- my AT&T monthly bill is actually a little cheaper than I was paying on Sprint. I have a few less minutes pe rmonth, but that’s okay, because I saved up so many rollover minutes the first month that I don’t have to worry about it. I haven’t even been close to using all of my minutes.

      I’m glad you think Sprint is getting better every month. But last time I checked, everyone else is getting better every month too. In fact, everyone else is making much bigger improvements every month than Sprint.

      It’s funny, I am in the process of turning my old Sprint Mogul into a stand alone GPS unit for my vehicles. I was on XDA reading the Titan (Mogul) wiki, and in the GPS section, there were multiple parts that said sometihng to the effect of, “The Kaiser/Tilt GPS does this much better.” Go read it for yourself if you don’t believe me. And it’s true. I get a GPS fix in less than a minute on my Tilt, the sprint equivalent device- the Mogul, isn’t even remotely close to that. It’s not uncommon to wait over an hour for a GPS fix when in flight mode on the Mogul. And there are horror stories all over the net about it for your reading pleasure if you care to look.

      AT&T is better than Sprint in every imaginable way. The phones are better, the service is better, the performance of the network is better, and in my area the coverage is the same outside- but inside the office tower I work in AT&T has way better coverage.

    18. JJ

      Good for you Sawlty man. Im glad your Hspa connection is working for you. I guess i’m the only lucky sprint user who also gets 2 to 3 megs on my laptop when I use my Touch to tether and use the GPS that also only takes 1-3 seconds to lock in a signal. Maybe i’ll switch companies too when i get tired of sprints so called bad service and cheap phones. Maybe i’ll get the great iphone with the greatest 3G network.

    19. bottomline

      Hey jj, if I were u, I’d stay exactly where im at. It all boils down to a matter of preference. I dont consider myself a Sprint fanboy at all but I will tell u this, I’ve worked in the wireless industry(off & on) for years and every carrier(provider) has it’s pros & cons. All of ‘em……..But after having been with all the major carriers throughout the years in my opinion the ones that I felt were slightly better(if not significantly better) than the rest(right now) are Sprint and Verizon(technology). And between the two of them I would pick Sprint(because of their pricing). Overall, I believe Sprint is the best value hands down. They’re financial & customer service issues not withstanding………..

    20. bottomline

      No offense Salty, but my experiences with Sprint and AT&T were quite the opposite as yours. That’s not to say AT&T isn’t a good wireless provider, im just saying that my experience with them wasn’t as positive………Like I said, it’s a matter of preference.

    21. SaltyDawg

      @ JJ:
      I am not an iPhone fan. I’m using a Tilt at the moment, and will be upgrading to the next device with a tilting screen whenever it’s released.

      Your Touch that you say only takes like 1-3 seconds for a lock- try that in flight mode and then get back to me. Any device only takes a couple seconds to get a lock if it’s using the towers. But I’m talking about a retired device- AKA, my Mogul that doesn’t even have service anymore versus my Tilt in flight mode. If I open Tom-Tom on my Tilt, in flight mode, it has the map open with my current location correctly displayed in about 20 seconds. These were supposed to be the comparable devices on each carrier, so it’s not an apples to oranges comparison at all.

      But yeah, I have no doubt that if you actually tried something like a Tilt, you’d be singing a different tune. In fact, not only can you tether with it just as easily as any Sprint device, but you don’t have to as often. It actually has the horsepower to do a lot of the things you need a laptop for.

      All I can tell you is don’t knock it til you’ve tried it. I was a long time Sprint customer until last year when I finally left. Now that I’ve tasted the water on the other side, I’m kicking myself for not leaving sooner. And I’m not naive sit back and take what I’m given type. I’m the flashing custom ROMs (even cook my own ROMs here and there), not only tethering but tethering with WmWiFi Router type.

    22. SaltyDawg

      @bottomline:
      I understand here and there you will find people with bad experiences on AT&T, and good experiences on Sprint. But take a look at the numbers. Sprint is losing customers by the millions every quarter, while AT&T is making huge gains every quarter. So it’s not like my story is a fluke or anything.

    23. Jesse Eastman

      My god people, are you like paid spokes people… All’s that really matters to any mobile subscriber is what works for that specific individual in their distinct area and daily routine.

      and another thing is some people need to know when to use they’re instead of their.

    24. bottomline

      I understand the numbers part of the equation. I realize that AT&T is doing well and Sprint isn’t. But keep in mind that that has nothing to do with the technology that each company uses. Bigger doesn’t necessarily mean better. I, personally, think that CDMA technology is superior to GSM. Again, just my own personal preference……..

    25. SaltyDawg

      Well, I used to think CDMA was better than GSM too- mostly based on what I had read. I guess it probably is better on paper, but the Patriots were better than the Giants last year on paper too.
      In reality, when I am talking on the phone thru my bluetooth, and at the same time I am not only on the internet- but watching live tv using my slingplayer, without a hiccup… Until Sprint is doing that, and I don;t mean routing all voice as IP calls and sharing your data bandwidth, but actually using real voice and data at the same time, there is no way you can tell me CDMA (at least the CDMA that Sprint is currently using) is better than the 3G that AT&T is currently using.

      Oh, and as far as price goes- I got 2 Tilts totally free when I switched to AT&T from Sprint. What would a phone like that cost me on Sprint? I paid like $600 each for my PPC6700′s, and like $500 each for my Moguls. So lets assume if Sprint even had a phone like the Tilt, (the Mogul was supposed to be their competition to it) it would have been around $500 (like the Mogul).
      So I saved myself $1000 in phone expenses by switching to AT&T. if you average that out over the length of my 2 year contract, that saves me $41.67 per month. If you take $41.67 off my monthly bill, it is MUCH cheaper than I was paying at Sprint. And that doesn’t even factor in any potential interest or capital gains I can earn by not spending that money.

    26. JJ

      Okay. Like someone said. If you try one cell phone service and it works for you, wether its verizon, att or sprint then keep it. In my case Sprint works for me and Verizon works for my cousin and att works for others. So to each its own. Now lets get back on track and talk about those who have sprint and how this loyalty program will help them cause I don’t think its going to help verizon or att customers.

    27. Mustang46L

      You know, today I won’t even say anything about the networks or phones, everyone knows where I stand.

      But…

      A few weeks ago I went to an AT&T store, about 7pm (they close at 9pm), walked around for 30 minutes. I was the only customer in the store, and their were 6 employees. I never even got greeted. That kind of rudeness is why I will NEVER be an AT&T customer.

    28. Benjamin

      We can all agree that all carriers have areas where the quality of their coverage is superb, but it is how quickly they upgrade the areas where they are not is the real factor that shows their devotion to the customers they are here to serve. In some areas its AT&T others its Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile etc. In the long run who ever has service where you need it is the winner, but as far as the entire country there is no true winner as they all have good and bad areas throughout.

    29. 08SI

      @SaltyDawg.

      I understand that you’re happy with ATT /GSM technology. However..just because you got a good deal when you switched to ATT (2 free tilts) doesn’t mean you can spread false info regarding Sprint. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not that I don’t think you paid that much for the 67/6800 with sprint, but don’t compare a new subscriber price with the REGULAR price of the mogul.

    30. Don Louie

      The most expensive phones after rebates are the Mogul and Touch Pro at $300, the Mogul definitely shouldn’t cost that much or the Touch Pro

    31. SaltyDawg

      @08SI
      How or where am I spreading any false info about Sprint?

      The NEW SUBSCRIBER price of a Mogul was like $500. The no contract price was $650. I am comparing like for like here.

      Sprint was left scrambling trying to match AT&T’s ridiculously low prices. When the iPhone came out at only $200, Sprint had nothing even remotely close. AT&T had the Tilt at like $300 already at that time.

      Right now- the Sprint Touch pro and AT&T Fuze have the exact same new customer price of $299. The difference is AT&T gives that same price to current out of contract customers, and Sprint only gives it to new customers (unless you get retentions to hook up up).

      Oh, and the no commit price on AT&T is $499, while on Sprint it’s $579.

      Devices, especially PDA devices, are just cheaper on AT&T. This is nothing new.

      @Don Louie:
      The Mogul was not $300. Maybe they lowered it to $300 right before they discontinued it, but it was $500 for a long time ($650 no commit).

    32. bottomline

      What about the plans each carrier offers ? Which company gives you the most bang 4 your buck ? Try comparing their simply everything plans, you’ll see what I mean……….

    33. SaltyDawg

      @bottomline

      The plans are not as far off as you think. AT&T unlimted plan would cost you an extra $35 per month on the individual plan unlimited plan to get the unlimited messaging and data. On the family plan, it would cost you an extra $30 (total) to get everyone on the plan unlimited messaging, and $10 per line for unlimited data.

      Not as bad as you make it out to be. My monthly bill is actually cheaper on AT&T than it was on Sprint. and if you factor in the $40+ per month that I saved by getting my phones for free, I made out like a bandit 9and i am FAR from a fluke story- there are tons of people with similar stories).

    34. Jeremy

      Hey SaltyDawg you sound like you either work for ATT or you need to GET A LIFE due to your obsession with the company. Just be happy with what you have and stop trying to justify why you switched from Sprint to ATT by defending and challenging every little detail. Congratulations we ALL know you LOVE ATT. By the way I have Verizon, the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    35. SaltyDawg

      I do not work for AT&T. I just have to correct the misinformation that all the Sprint fanboys are spewing in this thread.

      Sprint is on it’s last leg, and there is a reason for that.

    36. JJ

      @saltydog,
      I don’t know what your talking about that Att is not far of the price for the unlimited plan. You must be out of your mind. Sprints simply everything plan gives you unlimited EVERYTHING( including data messaging email and navigation) The att so called unlimited plan only gives you Voice minutes. If you want to add data it starts at $30 and if you want email and data its $50. Then you have to add $20 for unlimited texting. Thats an extra $70. Its not $35 for messaging and data. Cmon Salty boy, even Verizon is cheaper than that. Just forget about it its a lost cause.

      Oh by the way, sprint just recently whooped both AT&T and Verizon in a speed test in New York. Sprint has always been the fastest in the Data game.

      Sprint might have been on its last leg but they are working on rehabilitation now and they don’t look to shabby.

    37. SaltyDawg

      @jj

      I have no idea where you are getting your prices from, but you are WAY off.

      AT&T unlimited data is $15 for indivisual plans, $10 for family plans. And unlimited data with included unlimited messaging it’s $30 for individual plans. If you are on a family plan you can have unlimited messaging for the entire account (all lines included) for $30.

      As for your speed test- there have been PLENTY of speed tests where AT&T beat Sprint all over the place. Just because Sprint won one out of 50 doesn’t mean jack. AT&T has already said they will have 20 meg HSDPA deplayed by the end of the year. Now, of course I don;t expect to get that on my device, but I know Sprints EVDO isn’t even capable of anything near that speed. AT&T has 7 meg HSDPA deplayed right now. And, again, I know I won’t get a 7 meg download, but I know Sprint’s network isn’t even theoretically possibly going to get a 7 meg download.

      I have no idea where all this “Sprint has the fastest data” comes from, but I know it isn’t even remotely true. The only time sprint will beat AT&T in a speed test is if AT&T either doesn’t have coverage in that area or has too many subscribers for the tower to handle.

      It’s one thing if you say AT&T doesn’t have coverage in your area. But nobody in their right mind would say Sprint is better than AT&T if coverage is equal and tower utilization is minimal on both.

    38. SaltyDawg

      FYI guys, I just saw on newegg.com they are seeling the AT&T Fuze to new customers for $149. The Sprint Mogul for new customers on that same site is $299. The Sprint Touch Diamond is $249 for new customers on that site. They don’t have the Sprint Touch Pro.

      Letstalkwireless.com has the AT&T Fuze for $99 for new customers. They also have the Sprint Touch Pro for $249.

      Why nobody ever factors that in when they talk about the monthly bill is beyond me.

    39. JJ

      Your right, unlimited data is only 15, FOR REGULAR CELL PHONES, but if you want data on a PDA it starts at 30. Hey but if your only paying 15 for your pda then youve got an awesome deal. Dont let it go if thats the case.

      And again you start with the coverage. Come On! Most people agree, coverage depends on the area your in so if att gives you good coverage then go with them, but if sprint gives you good coverage then choose them. Its all about your personal preference. So stop being a little kid with the “mine is better than yours” crap.
      Again, this thread is for those who have sprint and sprint works for them. If not then go with the service that suits you.

    40. SaltyDawg

      @jj
      I agree that coverage is the most important factor. And in my case, I get equal coverage from all the major carriers. The whole area here is pretty much blanketed in coverage.

      However, as I already said, I work in an office tower, and inside that builiding, AT&T has a stronger signal than Sprint. Sprint still has a signal inside the building, but it’s much weaker than the AT&T signal. In fact, whenever I would start downloading something back when I had Sprint, my connection would usually drop from EVDO to 1X shortly after the download began. Whenever I was outside, or in a smaller building, the EVDO signal was fine.

      As for cost on those data plans- I am not sure you understand how it works. AT&T is not like Spriont. With Sprint, you put your plan on your device. You have to call Sprint everytime you change your device. AT&T is not like that. With AT&T, you put your plan on your SIM card, and then you stick your SIM card in whatever device you want. Once you have a plan on your SIM card, you don’t have to call AT&T ever again, and you can use as many different devices as you want. So you either go online or call AT&T and add whatever data plan you want. You then take your SIM card and put it in your PDA. It’s not rocket science.

    41. JJ

      Lets just hope your phone doesn”t get stolen then. Then someone can take your phone and use their sim card in it. Make sure you buy insurance. Oh but insurance only covers the phone Att knows about, so you still have to call them if you change your phone so they know which phone to cover.

      I guess again i might be the only Sprint customer that can change their phone online without having to call them. I must be really lucky to be able to do that since all other sprint customers have to call in if they ever change their phone.

    42. John

      Hey SALTYDAWG,
      If you don’t have sprint then why continue making comments on a sprint subject that has nothing to do with ATT? Just asking.

    43. SaltyDawg

      @jj:
      yes, if my phone gets stolen someone could pop their SIM in and use it. And yes, I do have insurance on it. When you sign up for the insurance, they note what kind of phone it is. It has absolutely nothing to do with your data plan though. In fact, I have already replaced one of my kids’ Tilts thru the insurance, and he still has the $15 data plan.
      And anyway, I run Sprite Terminator on my phone. If my phone gets stolen, I’ll be going directly to the thief with the police.
      As for you changing phones online at Sprint- yes, I’m aware you can do that with a phone you bought from Sprint and previously activated. But I’m talking about buying a phone off the streets that does not even say AT&T on it. You know, like the Touch Pro before AT&T released the Fuze, or the Sony Xperia X1 right now, or the HTC G1 right now, you get the idea. Or heck, it could even be an AT&T branded phone I bought used (or new). Any old phone that has a SIM slot- assuming it has US frequencies (which just about all of them at least have US voice and edge).

      @ John:
      I continue to make comments because people keep making posts directed at me. If you read back thru this post, just about every comment made has been directed specifically at me- including yours. And you may not think it has anything to do with AT&T, but it does. AT&T is taking customers from Sprint every quarter, and that is precisely the reason Sprint is taking drastic actions to retain them (which is why we have this post).

    44. 08SI

      @ SaltyDawg
      If you provide a link on ATT’s website saying that PDA plans are 15 bucks a pop that would be great……..

      Just because your SIM has a “dumphone” data plan on it doesn’t mean that every ATT customer does the same thing. Think about it… and like jj said, the whole my plan is better than yours is not working man. If THE MAJORITY of consumers were buy a cheap “dumbphone” and then swapping the sim to a Fuze/Tilt etc.., ATT would implement some sort of block. But this is proof that only a small fraction of customers swap sims that way…

    45. SaltyDawg

      @ 08SI:

      The link on AT&T’s website is there, but I don’t know how to link it (it just sayd javascript:void(”) when I copy the shortcut).

      On Sprint’s and AT&T’s websites, I just used the regular prices, no sales whatsoever, no special deals. I put together the following packages:

      Sprint:
      Touch Pro, Everything Data 900 minutes plan. It comes to One Time Charges: $399.99, Monthly Charges: $89.99.

      AT&T:
      Fuze, nation 900 with rollover minutes, PDA Personal Bundle (includes data and messaging). It comes to: One Time Charges: $279.99, Monthly Charges: $109.00

      So, Sprint charges $120 more up front, and then charges $20 less per month. Over the course of that 2 year contract, that $120 comes to a $5 savings per month. So Sprint is $15 per month cheaper, at regular prices, with no deals whatsoever.

      Now, the people who know what they are doing will immediately switch to the regular messaging and data unlimited plan (for $30 total) and that will bring their monthly bill to, per AT&T cart on their website: $89.99. Factor in the $5 per month savings from the cheaper device, and AT&T is now $5 per month cheaper than Sprint for the same minutes, unlimited data, and unlimited messaging.

      And now, factor in that you can go to letstalkwireless.com and get the AT&T Fuze for FREE, and AT&T is suddenly MUCH cheaper than Sprint:
      http://www.letstalk.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=34883&popup=1

      So I can’t link to the AT&T or Sprint shoppoing carts, but you know how to get their and I gave you the exact options I selected. And I gave you a direct link to letstalkwireless.com for an even better deal.

      Any more questions?

    46. protocol

      @SaltyDawg
      Theres no way you can provide a link from ATT’s website backing anything your saying.. lol Besides phonenews.com who I don’t think is biased to a specific carrier did the math already.

      “More importantly, that calculates out to a savings of $840 per year over the same plans on AT&T and Verizon”

      http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-doubles-the-savings…-by-changing-the-math-6030/

      Theres a link. Your turn! lol

    47. Don Louie

      I’ll add to this, no one is comparing device/plan price, the topic is yearly upgrades, giveaways, 1st to get new devices and free content. At this point vzw is still beating them with thier upgrade program, additional money off new customer price on plans as low as $35 at 20 months and new customer price yearly on plans of at least $50. Salty Dawg, you’re getting an unadvertised deal so hold onto it because your Fuze is supposed to be on a $30 data plan like the smartphone plans for most carriers, bottomline. When was the Mogul ever $500 for new customers, was never looking at it but was around $300 from the time I saw it and the Diamond is $200 thru Sprint and probably cheaper thru Best Buy. You don’t need to justify leaving w/the site community and there’s no need to compare phones/prices/services/coverage in an article about upgrades

    48. SaltyDawg

      I know I don’t need to justify leaving to the community. i am only correcting all the misinformation Sprint fanboys are notorious for spreading. I demonstrated in my last post that Sprint is NOT the hands down better deal that fanboys always say it is (and even said multiple times oin this very thread). I just compared the Touch pro on Sprint to the Fuze on AT&T, on plans with the exact same minutes, and unlimited data and unlimited messaging on both. And it came out to be cheaper on AT&T with no sale prices. I thin posted a link where you could get it even cheaper. If that isn’t proof that Sprint isn’t automatically the cheapest, then people are only seeing what they want to see.

    49. Don Louie

      I think you need to take this to the forum, I can dispute but would prefer not to distract from the topic. If this was about the competitions upgrade program I would continue to engage. One last thing on it though and I’ll meet you in the ATT or Sprint subforum, unlimited data alone on the Fuze is $30 which is the mandatory data plan (if you pay less, great but the average customer won’t) Sprint’s Touch Pro can be used w/Data Premier ($25 on top of minutes w/no messaging, nav, tv and radio), Pro Pack ($30 on top of minutes w/messaging, nav, tv and radio) and the Everything Plans.

    50. SaltyDawg

      I don’t understand what you mean. You are saying you will only consider the most expensive AT&T data plan, but then you will consider several Sprint data plans?
      Look, it doesn’t matter. I have 4 Tilts on my family plan- 2 of them have the $15 data plans, and 2 have the $30 plans. I figured I would keep the PDA data plans on the ones that get heavy use. And I have never had any problems from AT&T- even though I had to use insurance when one of my kids broke his screen (and he has the $15 data plan). AT&T even sent the rebate cards on the phones with $15 data plans.

      You seem to be thinking I cheated the system somehow. That is not the case. I got the $15 data plans activated in the store, by the AT&T rep, at the time I purchased the Tilts (I bought 2 in store and added them to my existing family plan, and bought the first 2 online).

      But it doesn’t even matter. I posted a link where you get a FREE Fuze for agreeing to a 2 year contract. Even if you pay $30 a month for your data, that $400 savings (the one time costs on the Sprint website) comes out to about $17 per month over a 2 year contract. If you take any old AT&T versus Sprint bill comparison, and take $17 off the AT&T bill, it is going to either be about the same or cheaper than Sprint. And that is WITh the $30 data plan, and the $20 messaging plan. But if you get the $30 data plan that includes messaging, suddenly AT&T is MUCH cheaper than Sprint.

      There is no debate here. I already went to Sprint’s and AT&T’s website, put the Touch pro in Sprint’s shopping cart and the Fuze in AT&T’s, selected a 900 minute plan in each, with unlimited data and unlimited messaging in each. I posted the results a couple posts ago, so there is no more debate here. If you doubt it, go to their website and try it yourself. And after you get done, you’ll see what I mean. And THEN you can come back and click this link where you get a FREE Fuze:
      http://www.letstalk.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=34883&popup=1

      Unless you’re talking about Sprint’s SERO plans (or something similar) then you can’t say Sprint is hands down the better value on any given plan. Especially when you start factoring in the cost of the actual phone.

    51. bottomline

      Look, everyone has a right to their opinion……..Salty, u like ATT, great knock yurself out. Stick with ‘em, I for one am not trying to convince u to go back to Sprint. All I did in my earlier posts was state my points of view, that doesn’t mean u have to agree. Also, despite all the difficulties Sprint is going thru I believe they will eventually right the ship and come out of this fine one way or another, whether by merger, bankruptcy, or on their own. Finally, I continue to ascertain that by weighing all the pros & cons of every major wireless providers’ price plans, Sprint continues to offer the best value……….Just my opinion, theres no need to get offended

    52. SaltyDawg

      I’m not getting offended. I’m sorry if it comes across that way. it can be difficult to relay emotion, mood, or tone on a message board. I am only stating my opinion, the same as everyone else in this thread.
      You think Sprint is the best value- fine. What works for you is obviously not going to be what works for everyone- and what works for me is obviously not going to be what works for everyone. but the fact remains- when you start factoring in the cost of the actual device, suddenly AT&T is cheaper than Sprint. And, again, I posted an actual; link where you can see for yourself if you don’t believe me.

    53. John

      Then post the link. I dont know where your getting the info that shows att is cheaper than sprint. I would really like the link to look at it myself. As of now on the att website data on a pda plan starts at 30 with unlimited messaging an extra 20. So again Salty, i wouldnt tell att about your way around that price and keep it as long as you can.

    54. SaltyDawg

      I posted the link, I’m sorry you missed it, but I posted it twice. Again, even if you pay $30 for data and $20 for messaging (which you absolutely don’t have to do and most people DON’T pay it for more than a couple months) AT&T is still cheaper than Sprint when you factor in the $400 Sprint hits you for the device 9and you can get it for free on AT&T).

    55. Don Louie

      Salty Dawg, you’re coming off as a troll. The are two retailer sites you listed, those are not links, that can give you a great price on the phone but there is not any information on plans. Now I want to clarify I didn’t call you a troll but bringing back the same off topic subject is trollish, take it to the forums, please. Debate the percieved misinformation there because it’s off topic here, we’re talking about rebate programs in this article.

    56. SaltyDawg

      I guess you aren’t reading my posts then. In the same post I posted the link in, I told you I don;t know how to post a ling to the AT&T shopping cart. I did, however, spell out the exact options I selected on AT&T’s website and the total charges. Fell free to duplicate it if you think I was lying. Let me spell it out for you again:
      900 minute plan, unlimited PDA data, unlimited messaging. This came to $20 per month more than Sprint’s 900 minute plan with unlimited data and unlimited messaging. However, the phone itself is much cheaper on AT&T.
      And the link I did post DOES have plan information if you care to actually click the link. it gives you a free Fize, and then you select your plan.
      This is absolutely NOT off topic here either. We’re talking about Sprint taking drastic measures to hang onto their long time customers, but their drastic measures might not be enough to save them if AT&T has a better deal.

    57. Don Louie

      It’s funny that I was calling to make sure my rebate on my primary was still active for the primary and the rep told me that the yearly upgrade applied to all my lines, even on added last March. I don’t believe her but she said that my account was noted as such, even crazier is when this started (7/08) I was told the yearly upgrade only applied to the and which was added 2 years after the 1st. That’s where the discussion about rebates came in with me upgrading 2 lines but returning the one, I plan on testing it with the Pre

    58. 08SI

      @SaltyDawg

      dude, seriously u got issues….. check the prices on the Touch Pro/Fuze, whatever you wanna call it. SPRINT AND ATT ARE SELLING IT FOR THE SAME PRICE!!!! I’m done with this… Have a good day.

    59. SaltyDawg

      @ 08SI:
      Dude, at least follow your own advice and check the prices. Sprint and AT&T are NOT selling the Touch pro and Fuze for the same price.I have already went over this several times now. Put both in your shopping cart and see what the one time charges come out to be. Since you must not have read any of my previous posts, let me repeat the same information I said in a previous post:
      Sprint: One Time Charges: $399.99
      AT&T: One Time Charges: $279.99

      And if you go to
      http://www.letstalk.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=34883&popup=1

      There are NO one time charges for the Fuze. You get it for FREE.

      I love how Sprint fanboys keep saying, “la,la,la, I can’t hear you” after spouting some totally wrong information. Sprint fanboys are so desperate to believe thsat Sprint is the cheapest in every possible way that they will flat out ignore the facts here.

      Again, put the Sprint Touch Pro in your shopping cart, and the put the AT&T Fuze in your shopping cart. Look at the one time charges, and then come back and tell me Sprint is selling it for the same price as AT&T. And then go to that lets talk wireless link I posted and show me a similar deal for a Sprint Touch Pro.

    60. JJ

      The touch Pro is actually 299.99 NOT 399.99 on the sprint site and it is the same exact price on the att site. There is no price difference between the 2. At least if you get it directly from the att and sprint site.

      If you by them without a 2 year contract they are both: 579.99 for Sprint and 499.99 for ATT.

      If you saltydawg feel that the price is otherwise different and can get it at the price you mentioned, then good for you. You got a great deal. I guess those of us who aren’t as good as you are at finding loopholes or great deals like the ones you have found, will continue to pay the price advertised on the companies site.

      At this point like it has been mentioned before, keep those plans as long as you can because for the rest of us who don’t cheat the system we will just have to pay what the cell phone companies charge.

    61. SaltyDawg

      @JJ:
      Look man, I don’t know how I can say this any more clear. Follow these instructions:
      1: open up a browser tab with sprint’s site, and another tab with AT&T’s site.
      2: Put the following items in your cart- Sprint- Touch Pro, Simply Everything Data 900 minutes plan. AT&T- Fuze, 900 minutes plan with rollover, PDA Personal Bundle 9includes unlimited data and messaging).
      3: Don’t select any other options or features from either site. Just go to the checkout.
      4: Note the one time charges. Sprint: $399.99, AT&T: $329.99. And Sprint has a $100 mail in rebate bringing it down to $299.99 after rebate, AT&T has a $50 rebate bringing it down to $279.99 after rebate.
      They are NOT the exact same price, as you incorrectly stated.
      Now, again, you can go to this link:
      http://www.letstalk.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=34883&popup=1
      and get a FREE Fuze. That is $300 CHEAPER than Sprint is charging for the Touch Pro. I posted the link multiple times now, so you can keep ignoring it if you want, but it is still there. and until you show me a deal where I can get a FREE Sprint Touch Pro, that stands as the better deal.

    62. John

      Good fof you Salty. Want a cookie?

    63. Going Cellular » Sprint rewards long-time customers

      [...] say it makes more sense to give the better deal to the loyal customer. That’s what Sprint plans to do. They’ve launched a new loyalty program which might help stanch their bleeding of [...]

    64. SaltyDawg

      To the guy who was saying Qwest is doin as bad as Sprint earlier in this thread, Qwest just posted a 4th quarter net profit of $185 million, or $0.11 per share. For the fiscal year 2008 they had a net profit of $681 million, or $0.39 per share. These numbers were down considerably from the 2007 numbers, thanks to this economy, but still on the green side of things (making profits, not losing money). Quite the oposite of what Sprint is doing. You can read the report here:
      http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/11/119535/Q408/4Q2008earningsfinal.pdf

      So I would not be surprised at all if Qwest makes a play to buy Sprint. Qwest has no wireless service- they are currently selling Verizon wireless. They were previously a Sprint MVNO but severed that relationship a few months ago.

    65. bottomline

      I’m the guy & I believe what I said was that “I thought” they were under federal investigation for cooking their books. I’m not saying Qwest is doing so but, if you recall, WorldCom was also posting great net profits for years until they were caught. In 2002, Qwest’s ceo did time for doing exactly that and if im not mistaken, phil anschutz(the founder) jumped ship from the company awhile ago. Whether or not theres any correlation with whats going on now is beyond me. Who knows, we’ll see what happens.

    66. SaltyDawg

      If you have some info saying Qwest is under investigation for cooking the books, please post it. As I recall, they were under investigation back in like 01 or something for it, but that investigation has been over for several years now (and their former CEO went to trial for it, but they have had 2 CEOs since then).

      And also, as I recall, Worldcomm did NOT post any profits WHILE they were under investigation. They posted a bunch of profits, then they went under investigation for it, and they posted huge losses the whole time from that point on.

      And yes, Qwest’s founder is long gone. That is a good thing for the company because they were never profitable under him. They have been profitable under the last 2 CEOs (both after the feds were already done with their investigation).

      Thebottom line is Qwest is adding customers and posting profits- even in the worst of economic times. To compare them with Sprint’s current situation is a horrible comparison as the 2 companies are clearly headed in opposite directions.

    67. Don Louie

      What does this have to do with the customer loyalty program. If you all want to continue to debate phone and carrier prices why don’t you all take this to the forums, can’t the majority of the post are about buddy having a cheaper phone and data plan than Sprint?

    68. SaltyDawg

      What it has to do with Sprint and their loyalty program is (and it says this in the thread) Sprint has had this loyalty program for quite a while now, and it hasn’t stopped the millions of customers from leaving every quarter. It is only a matter of time before Sprint either goes out of business or is bought by some other company. If the latter happens, Qwest would seem like a viable candidate.

    69. protocol

      @Salty
      Almost sounds like Sprint beat you up on the playground or something.. lol
      It’s alright man, you survived the beating and its time to move on now. lol

    70. SaltyDawg

      @ protocol
      All I’m doing is correcting all the misinformation in this thread. If that makes me sound like a hater then it’s because there are so many Sprint fanboys spreading false info.

    71. John

      I don’t know how stating what the exact price on the websites is spreading false info. But whatever Sawlty. I guess 99% of the people are wrong and your the only one with the facts. I gotta start coming to you from now on for all the latest news and info.

    72. SaltyDawg

      You didn’t state the exact price on the website- I did. And I don’t know how anyone can consider that as me being a hater. As I said, I was only correcting the misinformation in this thread. If you want to state the exact price on the website, put it in your cart and then come back back here and report the one time charges (as I did).

    73. bottomline

      I hate to have to rehash old(& probably irrelevant) stuff but, A). No, I cant say that I do have any “current” news regarding Qwest being under federal investigation. All I said was that “I thought” I read(or heard) they were under investigation(not that it matters, or anyone cares). I know there was a time(about 6 or 7 years ago) when they were under investigation because their former ceo did indeed get caught cooking the books for which he went to prison. B). WorldCom grew to become the 2nd largest telecommunications company in the country thru acquisitions & mergers after buying out MCI and almost buying Sprint. Up until the point they were caught by the feds, they were posting record profits that no one could figure out how. Especially, when the largest company at the time(ATT) wasn’t doing all that great. You can look it up, all the information is documented. C). This is all old news that really doesn’t matter anymore other than how it relates to the here and now. If you notice, I haven’t said one negative or inflamatory thing about Qwest(or anyone else) that wasn’t true. If Qwest is doing well, great, more power to them…….If ATT is doing well, great, more power to them…..However, there are still some of us that feel satisfied with Sprint and hope that they can turn it around.

    74. JJ

      Hey Sawlty you need to take a chill pill. No matter what you say, the fact of the matter is that sprints plans are way cheaper than att. You gotta keep saying things to make you feel better about att, especially now that sprint is turning around and is killing every other cell company out there in VALUE. If twisting the facts makes you feel better about yourself then good for you. As for me and probably a lot other people, I am happy with my sprint service and my touch pro that i got for 299 and pay only 99 a month for everything, not just voice. If you wanna continue arguing about the prices then good for you. It won’t magically change the deal i got and the deal every other person out there can also get just cause some idiot is mad hes paying to much for cell phone service. Im done with your childish responses. If anyone wants to continue the real reason for this thread (SPRINT LOYALTY PLAN) i would be happy to respond to that.

    75. Don Louie

      The loyalty program is good but needs some tweaking because vzw gives yearly upgrades on plans $50 or more and extra money off that price at 20 months. I would like the $35 and up plans to get yearly upgrades after completing the 1st contract with Basic getting after the 2nd and the perks coming midway thru the 3rd.

    76. SaltyDawg

      @bottomline:
      Yes, I remembert the MCI thing. You are confusing what they did before they got caught with what they did after they got caught. after they got caught, they almost went out of business and did nothing positive until Verizon bought them. You said you wondered if Qwest was lying about their current profits because they were under investigation 6 or 7 years ago, and used MCI as an example. Well, if we’re following MCI’s example then Qwest’s old and completed investigation has no relevance on what they are doing today.

      @JJ:
      I’m glad you are happy with your deal. But you are still spreading false info. I already listed where you can get your AT&T Fuze for FREE (not the $299 you paid) and get a better deal on some plans than Sprint offers. And don;t tell me there are a lot of happy Sprint people because Sprint is losing millions of customers every quarter- so there are a lot of unhappy Sprint people too. Every other wireless carrier out there is adding tons of customers every quarter, yet Sprint is losing them by the millions. I am not bitter that I’m paying to much for a mobile service- as you claimed. I am, in fact, paying less for my AT&T service than I was for my Sprint service.

    77. Don Louie

      I quit

    78. bottomline

      @Salty
      You’re absolutely right salty, hopefully Qwest continues to do great and you continue to get great service from ATT………..

      @Don Louie
      Dont quit, there’s definitely light at the end of the tunnel. Sprint is already showing signs of a turnaround especially in regards to customer service in spite of their recent customer defections.

    79. bottomline

      I spoke to a customer care rep earlier today and he said that they are in fact in the process of tweaking it. In fact, it’s supposed to offer even more benefits than verizons’. I guess we’ll soon find out……..

    80. JJ

      Hey Sawlty,
      I never said I got the fuze for free. I got the TOUCH PRO with Sprint and it was 299.99. But since you know what I paid then I guess I am mistaken cause I don’t know how much I spend, I just spend it. Thats great that you can get the fuze for free but not on the att website.

      I just added it in my cart just like you said and the final price was 299.99. So I guess again your the only one that can get the special prize.

      Anyway, the fuze might be cheaper when you buy it wherever you buy it but the phone plan is still cheaper with sprint. I still don’t know how you keep saying that the unlimited plan from att is cheaper than the one from sprint. I guess good for att having such a loyal customer like you. Stating the wrong information to defend them but your still defending them. Good for att.

      At this point I am done. I guess your a lucky guy Sawlty being as your one of the only people that can get these special prices and plans.

    81. SaltyDawg

      @JJ:
      Dude, can you read? I am trying to be nice here, but you keep spreading so much misinformation…
      PLease show me where I said you got the FUZE or the Touch pro for free? I specifically said the Touch Pro costs more than the Fuze, but i never said anything about what YOU had, or what YOU paid.
      The FUZE is being given away for free to new customers. That does not mean you have one. And I never said the unlimited plan was cheaper on AT&T. I specifically listed the 900 minute plan with unlimited data and unlimited messaging as being the same priceon AT&T, and cheaper when you factor in the cost of the device. There are also several family plans that are cheaper on AT&T.
      And I am not the only person to get these deals- heck, I posted a link about 10 times. I also gave specific instructions for exactly what to select on AT&T’s website.
      I love it how the Sprint fanboys keep acting like I’m the one in the minority here- saying things like i must be the only one in the world. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? AT&T is KILLING Sprint in total customers, and AT&T is adding tons more every quarter while Sprint is losing them by the millions every quarter. So if anything, you are the one who should consider himself lucky that he still considers sprint a decent value when millions of others are jumping ship every quarter.

    82. JJ

      Sawlty your telling me you didnt say this “@JJ:
      I’m glad you are happy with your deal. But you are still spreading false info. I already listed where you can get your AT&T Fuze for FREE (not the $299 you paid)”

      I guess your right. I must be seing things.

      But anyway enjoy your att service and ill continue to enjoy my service with sprint. Im glad your happy with your cell phone provider. In the end thats what we all want.

      I guess wnen sprint supposedly goes out of business then ill switch providers. In the meantime ill stick with my supposedly “bad service and expensive phones” because i love bad cell phone coverage.

      Okay, anybody have any actual sprint loyalty info or is sawlty going to continue trying to get commission on his sales pitches?

    83. SaltyDawg

      @JJ:
      Dude, I don;t work for any cell provider and I don’t do any sales at my job either. Just because I keep putting you fanboys in your [place doesn’t mean I have any secret motive. Now, let me point out your last 2 posts so you can see how contradictory they are (in regards to what you are claiming I said):
      JJ said: “Hey Sawlty,
      I never said I got the fuze for free. I got the TOUCH PRO with Sprint and it was 299.99.”

      Salty responded: “PLease show me where I said you got the FUZE or the Touch pro for free?”

      JJ then said: “Sawlty your telling me you didnt say this “@JJ:
      I’m glad you are happy with your deal. But you are still spreading false info. I already listed where you can get your AT&T Fuze for FREE (not the $299 you paid)” ”

      So for those that can read, there is nothing new here. But if you have trouble with your reading comprehension, you may need it spelled out again: The FUZE is cheaper than the Touch Pro. Even on AT&T’s website, if you put both in your cart the Fuze is much cheaper. And I posted a link about 10 times now where you can get the Fuze for FREE.

    84. Don Louie

      I went to the att site got a Fuze for $250 w/900 minutes, data was $15/no messaging or $30 for data and messaging. No nav but there is a $20 data/nav pack no messaging, $20 additional for messaging or $10 for nav if not in plans. A Fuze, 900 minutes, data/messaging (still say a new sub has to get the $30 PDA personal/no nav or messaging) and nav comes to $100 ($120) vs. $90 on Sprint, even with a $15 pack you still have to say $20 for messaging and $10 for nav to bring it to $105. That happens with the 450 and unlimited plans, factoring messaging and nav which doesn’t even account for entertainment. I did research but shouldn’t we be talking about a rebate plan, notice a concession on device price, plan you can’t legitimately (start new service) on a smartphone any other way. Those that have these cheat codes are fine but I was never offered that

    85. SaltyDawg

      @ Don:
      Forget the nav. There is absolutely no point in paying for nav on a phone that has it built in. There are multiple free nav servces out there if your phone has built in GPS. It’s cool that Sprint throws it in with their data plans, but don’t act like you have to pay for it on AT&T to be equal when the Fuze has it built in.

      So, to help you out here, the option you are looking for on the AT&T website is as follows:
      900 minute nationwide plan (, then hit add feature and select “Messaging & Data Unlimited” (the description on AT&T’s website says, and this is a copy and paste “Unlimited everything! mobile Web. Cellular Video. Plus four messaging options: Text, picture, video, and Instant Messaging.” and the price is, and this is another copy and paste “Monthly Price $30.00″).
      So we’re at $89.99 for 900 minutes, with unlimited messaging and unlimited data. The same price as Sprint. Now factor in the cheaper phone and suddenly AT&T is cheaper.

    86. Don Louie

      So there is one plan that you may be able to is equal to not cheaper than the Everything Data, everybody will not be able to get the same deal you got as a new customer. You are one of the people that won’t use a readymade directory that’s a click away, $90 for both now weigh the plusses vs. the of them allowing that data plan, and phone reps wouldn’t budge on that data plan or vzw rep for that matter

    87. bottomline

      Sounds like a great plan if u dont go over 900 minutes ? What about for those of us that use our phone for business( I typically average 4000 minutes a month) and also require unlimited data & unlimited messaging. Before u say Metro or Cricket, I also travel throughout the country. All of a sudden, Sprint doesn’t sound like such a bad idea, does it ?

    88. SaltyDawg

      The 900 minute plan was only 1 example. Honestly, I only listed it because it it popped up when I hit the phone. But just about any plan you select is going to be around the same price or cheaper on AT&T. The only exceptions are those unlimited plans where Sprint includes data. On my family plan, for example, I am paying like $30 per month less than I was when I had Sprint, and that does not even factor in the much cheaper phones.
      On the family plans, you can get unlimited messaging for the entire plan (covers all lines) for $30 total, and then unlimited data is only $10 per line.

    89. Don Louie

      Alright now factor out nav, data/email is $30 w/unlimited messaging another $20 on any smartphone is that much, if you have a work around that’s working great but can you upgrade that Fuze a year after getting it? Salty Dawg I do understand what you are saying and how the savings is a scam but your plan is Agent Smith like SERO for Sprint

    90. SaltyDawg

      No man, lol, my plan is nothing like SERO for Sprint. When I log into my online account, I have the option to change all my plan features- including the cheap data plans. You seem to be thinking AT&T is like Sprint and puts a plan on your phone, but it isn’t like that at all. AT&T puts a plan on your SIM card, not on your phone. So you can pretty much use whatever plan you want with whatever phone you want. I think the iPhone has a special SIM card (but I don’t know for sure, it might use a regular SIM card too) but I know for sure all the other phones use the same SIM cards.
      I have read TONS of reports online where someone streamed their slingbox all month, and then got hit with a huge bill because they didn’t have a data plan, and they got the charges waived by adding the cheap data plan (over the phone). So this is not some super secret conspiracy.
      Again, once you are an AT&T customer, you will likely have the option to add the cheap data plan when you log into your online account- without even calling anyone or going into a store. But I haven’t read one single report of anyone getting denied when they tried to add the cheap data plan- either on the phone or in person. Ever. And, again, mine was offered to me by the rep in the store on the 2 Tilts I was buying that day. He offered to change my 2 older Tilts to the cheaper data plan too but I declined because I use a lot of data on those 2 and I didn’t want to feel like I was not paying mny own way. But I may very well change to the cheaper data plans eventually if I don’t think I will be using as much data at some point.
      But the bottom line is this- this is not a SERO plan where you have to know somebody or whatever to get it. This is a regular old plan option that shows up in your online account when you sign in. It shows up on the AT&T website too before you add the Fuze to your cart.
      Do this- go to the AT&T website and add th eplan first, before you add the phone. Now you will see all the option that are available to you when you sign into your online account.

    91. John

      Is there a moderator in this forum? What do the instructions on cheating att have to do with the sprint loyalty plan? Is anyone controlling this? You guys can continue this in other forums.

    92. SaltyDawg

      This is not “cheating” AT&T, lol. The only people who say this is “cheating” AT&T are sprint fanboys who refuse to accept that Sprint isn’t always the cheapest. Again- if you call AT&T they will do it for you over the phone, no questions asked. If you go to an AT&T store, they will do it for you, no questions asked. If you are an AT&T customer, you probably already have the option in your online account manager. This is not “cheating” it’s just being a smart consumer.

    93. bottomline

      Around the same price or cheaper on ATT ?? I seriously doubt that ! Look, I didn’t want to get into this but now that you mention it, I have had several plans with several different carriers(ATT, VERIZON, T-MOBILE, SPRINT) and Sprints is the least expensive by far. Now pay close attention, im not talking about the phones(or what they cost), im talking about the plans. I’m also not talking about the low end plans, im talking about the unlimited everything plans. I’m not going to get into the specifics, but my Sprint bill is atleast $50 cheaper a month. As far as the loyaly program, its my understanding that their working on tweaking it more before contacting all customers who qualify for it.

    94. SaltyDawg

      Well if you are talking about who is the cheapest, you HAVE to factor in the cost of the phone. I mean, seriously, if you put $50,000 down on a car, are you going to say your car is “cheaper” than a Neon because your car payment is only $10 per month?

      If AT&T gives me a $500 phone for free, but charges me $5 extra per month over the course of 2 years, I would consider that a huge savings- even though it is an extra $5 per month.

      As for your heavy usage- you realize the AT&T unlimited plan is $30 more than Sprint’s, right? Not “at least $50″ as you said. It’s $99 for voice (same as Sprint) and another $30 for unlimited messaging and data. So yeah, Sprint is cheaper for the unlimited (if you want data and messaging- voice is the same price). But there are several plans where AT&T is cheaper, and that is what I have been saying all along.

      I never said AT&T was cheaper than Sprint in every possible scenario. I only pointed out that Sprint is not always cheaper than AT&T in every possible scenario either. Sprint fanboys like to say Sprint is the cheapest all the time, and that simply isn’t true.

    95. bottomline

      For starters, I am not a Sprint fanboy but as someone earlier had said, are you a paid ATT spokesperson or what ? NO, MY BILL WASN’T $30 CHEAPER, IT WAS ATLEAST $50 CHEAPER !!! I have the bills to prove it. Have you forgotten that ATT charges an additional $20 a month for unlimited messaging…….20+30=50 ! Now, for whatever reason, Sprint had(has) given us discounts that no other provider would give us. So, if you really want to know, it was closer to $80 less expensive. I just didn’t want to burst your ATT bubble. As far as factoring in the cost of the phone thats fine, but there are many places you can purchase a phone. It doesn’t have to be thru the carrier ! I’ve received all my cell phones for free because of the line of work that im in and the relationship my company has with all the wireless providers. In closing, I really dont care who thinks of what about whatever wireless service provider there is out there, im just telling it as I’ve seen it & lived it ! If this makes me a so-called Sprint fanboy, whatever. I could really care less………..

    96. SaltyDawg

      I haven’t forgotten about anything AT&T charges. If you read my post, I specifically said the unlimited plan on Sprint was cheaper if you wanted data and messaging but for voice only it’s the same price. And it’s not $50, it’s $30 for unlimited data and unlimited messaging on AT&T’s unlimited plan (and cheaper if it’s a family plan).

      If you have some special discounts from Sprint, that’s cool. And I agree that there are many places to buy a phone. Again, I posted a link about 10 times now where you can get a free Fuze. So I obviously know that you don’t have to get them from the carrier. But I never see any free Sprint Touch Pro’s anywhere.

      I don’t know the specifics of your plan, but the regular old Sprint unlimited plan is only $30 per month cheaper than the regular old AT&T unlimited plan- and that’s including unlimited voice, data, and messaging. So if yours is $80 per month cheaper, either you have some pretty killer discounts from Sprint, you didn’t have the AT&T unlimited plan, or you have several phones on your plan.

    97. bottomline

      Listen here salty, this is getting a little bit annoying. I have no reason to lie. NONE, WHATSOEVER ! Nobody is paying me to say what im saying & nobody is sponsoring me to reveal what im revealing ! I AM PAYING CLOSE TO $80 LESS(PER MONTH) WITH SPRINT OVER EVERY OTHER MAJOR WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER “INCLUDING YOUR BELOVED ATT” WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!! And yes, I did have your ATT unlimited everything plan with all the bells & whistles ! I am sorry if that hurts your feelings but thats exactly whats going on ! I dont pay for my handsets but if I had to, I know exactly where I would go where the price of my handset would be a non-factor !

    98. SaltyDawg

      Listen up- AT&T is not “beloved” in my book. Far from it. They are just better than Sprint in nearly every imaginable way.

      I could call B.S. on you, the way all the Sprint fanboys did to me, and demanded that I post a link. At least I DID actually back up all my claims…

      I won’t go there though. It doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. My only motivation in this thread was to set all the Sprint fanboys straight in all their bogus claims. Notice, when someone started talking about Verizon I did not dispute any of it. I just get sick of all the sprint fanboys claiming that sprint is by far the cheapest ion every imaginable way.

      BUT… since you started talking about specifics here. I was a Sprint customer for many years, and I HAD this stupid loyalty plan for a while before I left Sprint. Guess what? I am STILL paying AT&T less money than I was paying sprint, and I got 2 top notch phones for free. And this isn’t some bogus claim that “I’m so important they will give me phones for free” with nothing to back it up. No, I posted a link about 10 times now where any average joe can go get a FREE Fuze right now by signing a 2 year AT&T contract. So if you “claim” you’re paying $80 less on Sprint- good for you. But I am paying less on AT&T, and I also posted an AT&T plan that is the same price as the comparable Sprint plan (with the family plans being even cheaper) and posted how you can get your AT&T Fuze for free. And you don’t have to be some super important industry insider to get it.
      And, again, if you had the AT&T unlimited plan for $130, and you are repeatedly claiming that your Sprint bill is $80 cheaper, are you saying that you have Sprint’s unlimited plan for $50? because is you do, please post how I (or anyone else) can get that deal. I have given specific details, including links and detailed instructions, on how to get every single AT&T deal I have talked about. If you’re going to go in all caps, “yelling” at me about your alleged deal, back up your claim and tell me how I can also get such a deal.

    99. bottomline

      When the hell did I ever claim to be Mr. Important or some super important industry insider you moran ? Do you suffer from low self esteem ? I cant help it if you have an inferiority complex that compels you to have to lash out at everyone that doesn’t agree with you ! It’s not my(or anybody elses’) fault that you’re so obviously bitter about your past experiences with Sprint that you feel you have to go out on a crusade and try to prove everybody else wrong ! I’m not going to apologize for the fact that I pay less with Sprint than I ever paid with ATT(or anybody else for that matter). The last time I checked, this is a thread(forum) about Sprints loyaly program, which begs the question, what are you doing here if you dont have Sprint anymore ? Its not good to keep such negative energy in, let it go, its not that big a deal. Then again, whatever, its a free country do or say whatever you want. Im done.

    100. Don Louie

      Salty Dawg, bottomline take your carrier debate to the forum. The more you all keep bringing this off topic discussion you promote trolling

    101. SaltyDawg

      @bottonline:
      So when someone asks you to back up yu=our claims you resort to a bunch of personal attacks? Not one single link to back it up? I think that says it all.

      You were dead wrong about Qwest, and I backed that up with links. You were dead wrong about AT&T’s plans, and I backed that up with links. So it’s funny that you have absolutely nothing to back up your claims now. You have been wrong enough times in this thread that I think it’s time you back up at least one of your bogus claims.

      Also, it’s hillarious when you call someone a moron but can’t even spell the word correctly.

      personal attacks with no substance. Yeah, great post. Now try to actually back up some of your claims because you have been owned in this “debate.”

    102. John

      Man sawlty you really need help. We are all glad you are happy with att. But consumer report just rated sprint #1 in value for your money. They also rated customer service in this order: 1:Tmobile 2: Verizon 3:Att 4:Sprint. Yes, sprint was last in CS but then again Att didnt get first in any ranking. So you can state anything you want, you can say we all spread false info, but that still doesn’t change the fact that me and a lot other people in this thread that have sprint have great plans and dont care what some pathetic person that thinks hes the only person that knows all the so called facts think. So at this point its all about what company suits you and sprint still suits some and att suits others and so forth. So ill stick with my so called bad service and be happy with everyone else who thinks so too.

      And again i ask Sawlty, what thread is this for? Oh yeah, its about sprint loyalty. Or am i mistaken? I forgot Sawlty is the King of the know it alls. He cant be wrong!

    103. SaltyDawg

      And again- you may very well be happy with your Sprint service. But, again, Sprint is losing customers by the millions while every other wireless carrier is adding them. So just because 4 or 5 people in this thread is happy with Sprint certainly does not mean everyone is. The numbers would indicate that far more people are happier with other carriers than with Sprint.

      Heck, Consumer Reports rated Sprint dead last in customer satisfaction. Meaning, more people are upset with their Sprint plans/service than on any other carrier.

      And yes, I know what this thread is about- the Sprint Loyalty plan. As I said- I HAD that stupid loyatly plan and I still got a better deal with another carrier. So Sprint better do a lot more than that if they want to turn things around.

    104. bottomline

      I have been owned in this debate ?? Well, Congratulations(I think I spelled that right) Champ ! I guess we all cant be as smart or articulate as you. Now come get your medal………

    105. JJ

      No, not a medal. A cookie. Or maybe a star sticker for a job well done :)

    106. js

      sprint is now officially better than AT&T with sprints new and expanding 4g network

    107. Mike Neipris

      This reward program is an insult

    108. terry

      SO HOW ABOUT THE LOYAL PERSON WHO PAYS ONLY 50-60 DOLLARS AMOUNTH ? I guess we dont count

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